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Re: Patients Die as Doctors Abandon Small Towns
2004-05-08 01:43:58
>Subject: Re: Patients Die as Doctors Abandon Small Towns >From: "Skeptic" bs002b@yahoo.com >Date: 5/7/04 8:41 PM Eastern >Maybe I misread then. Checking. Nope. You wrote that you were > >"well aware of the number of physicians who were or are engaged in fraud." > >... but now you're saying you do not know the actual statistics. It's ok to >have and to share an opinion, but when state like it like a fact ... when >it's not, that is misleading and dishonest. And its not the first time >you've done such things. Less then 5% of the physicians, here in the United States, commit fraudlant actions. They vary from simple up coding, to performing unnecessary surgery, to billing for visits that never took place. Now, I suppose you want the source. Suggest you surf the net for that information. Denise
2004-05-08 20:18:16
In article <20040507214358.19889.00001020@mb-m10.aol.com>,
dwood78828@aol.com (DWood78828) wrote: > >Subject: Re: Patients Die as Doctors Abandon Small Towns > >From: "Skeptic" bs002b@yahoo.com > >Date: 5/7/04 8:41 PM Eastern > > >Maybe I misread then. Checking. Nope. You wrote that you were > > > >"well aware of the number of physicians who were or are engaged in fraud." > > > > >... but now you're saying you do not know the actual statistics. It's ok to > >have and to share an opinion, but when state like it like a fact ... when > >it's not, that is misleading and dishonest. And its not the first time > >you've done such things. > > > > Less then 5% of the physicians, here in the United States, commit fraudlant > actions. They vary from simple up coding, to performing unnecessary surgery, > to billing for visits that never took place. > > > Now, I suppose you want the source. Suggest you surf the net for that > information. Interestingly enough, some of this "fraud" is not intentional. The government has made it so that doctors can get nailed for fraud even if there was no intent to defraud. Billing mistakes can be counted. -- Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?"
2004-05-08 20:37:31
"Orac" news:orac-C16444.16182608052004@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net... > In article <20040507214358.19889.00001020@mb-m10.aol.com>, > dwood78828@aol.com (DWood78828) wrote: > > > >Subject: Re: Patients Die as Doctors Abandon Small Towns > > >From: "Skeptic" bs002b@yahoo.com > > >Date: 5/7/04 8:41 PM Eastern > > > > >Maybe I misread then. Checking. Nope. You wrote that you were > > > > > >"well aware of the number of physicians who were or are engaged in > > > > > > > >... but now you're saying you do not know the actual statistics. It's > > >have and to share an opinion, but when state like it like a fact ... > > >it's not, that is misleading and dishonest. And its not the first time > > >you've done such things. > > > > > > > > Less then 5% of the physicians, here in the United States, commit > > actions. They vary from simple up coding, to performing unnecessary > > to billing for visits that never took place. > > > > > > Now, I suppose you want the source. Suggest you surf the net for that > > information. > > Interestingly enough, some of this "fraud" is not intentional. The > government has made it so that doctors can get nailed for fraud even if > there was no intent to defraud. Billing mistakes can be counted. > Pick up a copy of Sutherland's "White Collar Crime." That is what ALL businesses always say when they are nailed for fraud. It is the standard answer.
2004-05-09 04:48:01
"DWood78828" news:20040507214358.19889.00001020@mb-m10.aol.com... > >Subject: Re: Patients Die as Doctors Abandon Small Towns > >From: "Skeptic" bs002b@yahoo.com > >Date: 5/7/04 8:41 PM Eastern > > >Maybe I misread then. Checking. Nope. You wrote that you were > > > >"well aware of the number of physicians who were or are engaged in > > > > >... but now you're saying you do not know the actual statistics. It's ok > >have and to share an opinion, but when state like it like a fact ... when > >it's not, that is misleading and dishonest. And its not the first time > >you've done such things. > > > > Less then 5% of the physicians, here in the United States, commit > actions. They vary from simple up coding, to performing unnecessary > to billing for visits that never took place. > > > Now, I suppose you want the source. Suggest you surf the net for that > information. To try to validate your random numbers? Lol. I think not. You went from knowing exactly how many, to not knowing actual numbers, back to knowing it's some number fewer than 5% but you have no idea the source of your own information. You flip around like a flounder on dry land.
2004-05-09 09:42:57
On Sat, 08 May 2004 20:18:16 GMT, Orac
>In article <20040507214358.19889.00001020@mb-m10.aol.com>, > dwood78828@aol.com (DWood78828) wrote: > >> >Subject: Re: Patients Die as Doctors Abandon Small Towns >> >From: "Skeptic" bs002b@yahoo.com >> >Date: 5/7/04 8:41 PM Eastern >> >> >Maybe I misread then. Checking. Nope. You wrote that you were >> > >> >"well aware of the number of physicians who were or are engaged in fraud." >> > >> >> >... but now you're saying you do not know the actual statistics. It's ok to >> >have and to share an opinion, but when state like it like a fact ... when >> >it's not, that is misleading and dishonest. And its not the first time >> >you've done such things. >> >> >> >> Less then 5% of the physicians, here in the United States, commit fraudlant >> actions. They vary from simple up coding, to performing unnecessary surgery, >> to billing for visits that never took place. >> >> >> Now, I suppose you want the source. Suggest you surf the net for that >> information. > >Interestingly enough, some of this "fraud" is not intentional. The >government has made it so that doctors can get nailed for fraud even if >there was no intent to defraud. Billing mistakes can be counted. Absolutely true.. And the ambiguity of the reglations makes it virtually impossible to continually produce totally accurate claims in every respect. pixie
2004-05-09 16:35:36
"Skeptic" news:5Kinc.55108$kh4.3219668@attbi_s52... > > "DWood78828" > news:20040507214358.19889.00001020@mb-m10.aol.com... > > >Subject: Re: Patients Die as Doctors Abandon Small Towns > > >From: "Skeptic" bs002b@yahoo.com > > >Date: 5/7/04 8:41 PM Eastern > > > > >Maybe I misread then. Checking. Nope. You wrote that you were > > > > > >"well aware of the number of physicians who were or are engaged in > fraud." > > > > > > > >... but now you're saying you do not know the actual statistics. It's > to > > >have and to share an opinion, but when state like it like a fact ... > > >it's not, that is misleading and dishonest. And its not the first time > > >you've done such things. > > > > > > > > Less then 5% of the physicians, here in the United States, commit > fraudlant > > actions. They vary from simple up coding, to performing unnecessary > surgery, > > to billing for visits that never took place. > > > > > > Now, I suppose you want the source. Suggest you surf the net for that > > information. > > To try to validate your random numbers? Lol. I think not. You went from > knowing exactly how many, to not knowing actual numbers, back to knowing > it's some number fewer than 5% but you have no idea the source of your own > information. You flip around like a flounder on dry land. > > Cheating physicians are Medicare's biggest problem. The system was set up assuming professionals would not cheat. It was a major error.
2004-05-09 19:25:54
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Gretchen Evans > On Sat, 08 May 2004 20:18:16 GMT, Orac > > >In article <20040507214358.19889.00001020@mb-m10.aol.com>, > > dwood78828@aol.com (DWood78828) wrote: > >> Now, I suppose you want the source. Suggest you surf the net for that > >> information. > > > >Interestingly enough, some of this "fraud" is not intentional. The > >government has made it so that doctors can get nailed for fraud even if > >there was no intent to defraud. Billing mistakes can be counted. > > Absolutely true.. And the ambiguity of the reglations makes it > virtually impossible to continually produce totally accurate claims in > every respect. Indeed. Virtually every physician has made billing errors to Medicare, and, under the current law, many innocent errors can be prosecuted. -- Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?" |
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