Re: We need a Federal Law with teeth !!!!!!!!!




PJVEX@EARTHLINK.NET (VUNDKIND) 2003-10-04 21:35:54

dalexkuhn@aol.com ( Dale D. Kuhn) wrote in message news:<20031004182517.04998.00000287@mb-m18.aol.com>...
> It's really very simple. I you are caught selling drugs or having anything to
> do with importing or distributing them, for the first offfense you will get 80
> years behind bars with no chance of parole. No more slap on the wrist
>
> This is a nationwide problem but Congress does NOTHING


What?? Are you out of your mind? A law of that type would have 50%
of the adult population behind bars in 10 years! Before any of our
tax dollars could get to programs like improving healthcare, providing
loans/grants for college, or ANY type of
life-improving/poverty-reducing/knowledge-increasing government
effort, these dollars would go to paying for inmates in jail!!

And, as it appears Mr. Kuhn, that you still have no concept of supply
and demand, if Congress did as you suggest, and passed this
legislation without including the USERS along with the dealers, we
would still have the DEMAND! Therefore, you would have an incredible
risk premium rewarding anyone who still chose to deal or distribute
drugs....they would be lining up to deal! Don't you get it??? It
wouldn't change anything--only make things worse!!! A lot worse.

Teeth? Anymore of the philosphy which encourages more "teeth" from
our government regarding laws against drugs, and we would be close to
fascism.

Christ! How myopic and ignorant can you get?

Not only that, but considering that most legal scholars consider the
federal controlled substances act unconstitutional in the first place
(remember we had an AMENDMENT for alcohol prohibition), but a sentence
of 80 years in prison for selling 1.4 oz. of marijuana would certainly
be cruel and unusual punishment.

We might as well implement Mein Kampf and just substitute "drug-users"
for "jews". There would be no difference.

Start thinking out of the box. Or....at the minimum, just start
thinking. Considering this post of yours, its obvious you include
neither reason nor sound judgment in your opinions.

Parker


ERIC JOHNSON 2003-10-05 10:28:36

On 05-10-2003 00:25, in article
20031004182517.04998.00000287@mb-m18.aol.com, "Dale D. Kuhn"
wrote:

> It's really very simple. I you are caught selling drugs or having anything to
> do with importing or distributing them, for the first offfense you will get
> 80
> years behind bars with no chance of parole. No more slap on the wrist
>
> This is a nationwide problem but Congress does NOTHING



Newt Gingrich as speaker of the house was quoted as saying just that in
support of a anti-crime/drug bill.

Look where he is now.

EJ



JASBIRD 2003-10-05 11:18:59

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 01:42:27 +0100, "Johnny"
wrote:

> Dale D. Kuhn wrote:
>> It's really very simple. I you are caught selling drugs or having
>> anything to do with importing or distributing them, for the first
>> offfense you will get 80 years behind bars with no chance of parole.
>> No more slap on the wrist
>>
>> This is a nationwide problem but Congress does NOTHING


Strange - they have a different perception. I believe that Congress
has introduced nearly one anti-drug law every year for the past 20+
years. Join the crowd, I suggest you run for congress - then you can
introduce your own Bill.

>Absolute brilliance, you're a genius. I'd struggled with the idea that
>jailing your way out of the drug trade problem wasn't possible. Especially
>when idiotic drug war liars like mcaffrey have been forced to admit as much.
>Maybe there was something too obvious and simplistic that I just couldn't
>grasp. That perhaps it was the fear of being caught, or lack of it, that
>wasn't deterring drug law breakers, the financial incentives to do so or the
>damned clear consciences these same law breaking drug using scum have
>because they know they're not harming anyone. I just can't accept that! Now
>it's obvious, the prison sentences just aren't long enough. Eighty years is
>most impressive, I congratulate you.


I think that 100 years sounds tougher though - it's a nice round
number and makes a better sound bite. Come to think of it 1000 years
is ten times tougher, even than 100. That'll be the ticket then - it
can be called the 'Millennium Drug Bill'. A bill for the new
millennium to introduce millennial sentencing. God, I'm a genius for
thinking of that - it's only 3 years late, too.

> but why not simply shoot the sub-human
>scumbags? Much quicker and cheaper, better to shoot two and get the right
>one... don't you think?
>




BRIAN BENNETT 2003-10-05 15:54:42

"Dale D. Kuhn" wrote:
>
> It's really very simple. I you are caught selling drugs or having anything to
> do with importing or distributing them, for the first offfense you will get 80
> years behind bars with no chance of parole. No more slap on the wrist
>
> This is a nationwide problem but Congress does NOTHING


you obviously don't know a damn thing about the situation. congress has been
passing drug laws since 1914. when do you suppose it will "work?"

b
--
citizen, patriot, stoner

Marijuana: it's nowhere near as scary as they want you to think.

visit truth: the Anti-drugwar at http://www.briancbennett.com

Ask these former drug warriors why drugwar doesn't work:
http://www.leap.cc/main.htm


AMERICAN 2003-10-05 20:50:55


"Eric Johnson" wrote in message
news:BBA5A2D4.2E21B%erj66@xs4all.nl...
> On 05-10-2003 00:25, in article
> 20031004182517.04998.00000287@mb-m18.aol.com, "Dale D. Kuhn"
> wrote:
>
> > It's really very simple. I you are caught selling drugs or having

anything to
> > do with importing or distributing them, for the first offfense you

will get
> > 80
> > years behind bars with no chance of parole. No more slap on the

wrist
> >
> > This is a nationwide problem but Congress does NOTHING
>
>
> Newt Gingrich as speaker of the house was quoted as saying just that

in
> support of a anti-crime/drug bill.
>
> Look where he is now.
>


He is making a fortune lobbying for other capitalist tax sucking
maggots.





AMERICAN 2003-10-05 20:49:25


"vundkind" wrote in message
news:a8215ce2.0310042035.1463eec2@posting.google.com...
> dalexkuhn@aol.com ( Dale D. Kuhn) wrote in message

news:<20031004182517.04998.00000287@mb-m18.aol.com>...
> > It's really very simple. I you are caught selling drugs or having

anything to
> > do with importing or distributing them, for the first offfense you

will get 80
> > years behind bars with no chance of parole. No more slap on the

wrist
> >
> > This is a nationwide problem but Congress does NOTHING
>
> What?? Are you out of your mind? A law of that type would have 50%
> of the adult population behind bars in 10 years! Before any of our
> tax dollars could get to programs like improving healthcare, providing
> loans/grants for college, or ANY type of
> life-improving/poverty-reducing/knowledge-increasing government
> effort, these dollars would go to paying for inmates in jail!!
>
> And, as it appears Mr. Kuhn, that you still have no concept of supply
> and demand, if Congress did as you suggest, and passed this
> legislation without including the USERS along with the dealers, we
> would still have the DEMAND! Therefore, you would have an incredible
> risk premium rewarding anyone who still chose to deal or distribute
> drugs....they would be lining up to deal! Don't you get it??? It
> wouldn't change anything--only make things worse!!! A lot worse.
>
> Teeth? Anymore of the philosphy which encourages more "teeth" from
> our government regarding laws against drugs, and we would be close to
> fascism.
>
> Christ! How myopic and ignorant can you get?
>
> Not only that, but considering that most legal scholars consider the
> federal controlled substances act unconstitutional in the first place
> (remember we had an AMENDMENT for alcohol prohibition), but a sentence
> of 80 years in prison for selling 1.4 oz. of marijuana would certainly
> be cruel and unusual punishment.
>
> We might as well implement Mein Kampf and just substitute "drug-users"
> for "jews". There would be no difference.
>
> Start thinking out of the box. Or....at the minimum, just start
> thinking. Considering this post of yours, its obvious you include
> neither reason nor sound judgment in your opinions.
>


I think people who promote cruel and unusual punishment should be given
that punishment.

Death to the christian jew cop government.















wiercenie poker books pokrowce na siedzenia samochodowe . sauna