Psychic medicine or hoax?






KATHY37@WEBTV.NET 2004-01-16 12:07:37

Don't know if this is the same Russian girl, but I recall that a young
Russian girl supposedly with x-ray vision applied & took the Randi $1
Million Challenge in the last year or two. I'm sure someone else here
knows more about it. (P. S., she didn't win).



ANTH 2004-01-16 20:51:27

Hi
Looked on the Randi site, couldn't find anything about it.
Anth

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> Don't know if this is the same Russian girl, but I recall that a young
> Russian girl supposedly with x-ray vision applied & took the Randi $1
> Million Challenge in the last year or two. I'm sure someone else here
> knows more about it. (P. S., she didn't win).
>





PETER MORAN 2004-01-17 07:37:02


"Anth" wrote in message
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> Hi
> Looked on the Randi site, couldn't find anything about it.
> Anth


I am not sure if this is the same Russian girl. It is possible that the
same one has moved on to climes where the supernatural is daily promoted in
media, but I don't recall Randi's case claiming to be able to see inside
people. His was an example of the "peeping under the blindfold" scam,
where "the power" disappeared with more effective blocking of vision.

This girl could be easily tested under properly controlled conditions, but
journalism is about entertainment.

Peter Moran





ANTH 2004-01-17 00:43:30

"Peter Moran" wrote in message
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>
> "Anth" wrote in message
> news:40084eca$0$61056$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net...
> > Hi
> > Looked on the Randi site, couldn't find anything about it.
> > Anth
>
> I am not sure if this is the same Russian girl. It is possible that the
> same one has moved on to climes where the supernatural is daily promoted

in
> media, but I don't recall Randi's case claiming to be able to see inside
> people. His was an example of the "peeping under the blindfold" scam,
> where "the power" disappeared with more effective blocking of vision.
>
> This girl could be easily tested under properly controlled conditions, but
> journalism is about entertainment.


Yep agreed, whenever has things like this been shown to be fact.
(I think it's a hoax also, but something to chat about out of curiosity).

> Peter Moran
>





WRIGHT@CLAM.PRODIGY.NET (DAVID WRIGHT) 2004-01-17 04:01:17

In article <4008597e$0$819$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-01.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>,
Peter Moran wrote:
>
>"Anth" wrote in message
>news:40084eca$0$61056$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net...
>> Hi
>> Looked on the Randi site, couldn't find anything about it.
>> Anth
>
>I am not sure if this is the same Russian girl. It is possible that the
>same one has moved on to climes where the supernatural is daily promoted in
>media, but I don't recall Randi's case claiming to be able to see inside
>people. His was an example of the "peeping under the blindfold" scam,
>where "the power" disappeared with more effective blocking of vision.
>
>This girl could be easily tested under properly controlled conditions, but
>journalism is about entertainment.


Russian researchers have been a wee bit credulous about these psychic
wonder-workers in the past. I recall seeing some black&white film of
a woman (the name "Kulagina" comes to mind, but that may be wrong),
who performed such miracles as making a pill bottle move without
touching it, and making a compass needle swing around wildly.

Pathetic, really. Even to me, who has no real experience with
close-up sleight of hand, it was obvious that the pill bottle was
being moved by a nylon thread (they can be so thin as to be nearly
invisible) between her fingers, and the compass needle motion
(combined with the circular motions she was making with her head)
strongly suggested that she had a magnet in her mouth.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
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