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Re: possible symptomatic treatment [my post to Co-Cure] (RIKa)
2005-10-26 07:51:52
Hi Rika Kageyama, on 10/26/05, you wrote:
RK> Eric wrote: RK> "For me, the bromelain seems to be better than nattokinase. RK> But bromelain is for anti-inflammation, and natto is for RK> excessive blood coagulation/thickening. Although, bromelain RK> also helps reduce one of the blood thickening components -- RK> so it might be dual purpose." RK> "For blood thickening, Cheney mentioned lumbrokinase twice in RK> his lecture. Apparently he thinks that is better than natto. RK> " RK> Hi Eric, RK> If this is from my ignorant, I'm sorry. But, I believed RK> "reducing the blood thickening can increase the blood flow". RK> Is it right....? This might be Eastern idea but, when blood RK> flow becomes bad (for example, by thickening), RK> the inflammation gets worse (because blood can not get rid of RK> the inflammatory substances, which our body created, by blood RK> flow). So, I wonder if separating the mechanism of blomelain RK> (as you did) can support the Cheney's idea.... The idea that in some cfids the blood becomes "thicker" as in "immune activated hypercoaguability" has been around for a while. If a physician believes this is the case the treatment is usually done with anti-coagulants such as coumarin. Not an Eastern idea at all. People who believe this sometime use Vitamin E in high doses but recommend that if surgery is needed the Vit. E be stopped before the operation. The idea has been promoted on the list before using the above terminology. RK> BUT (!), I have been outsider (since 10 years ago !) and I am RK> now simply the being who have noisily given your world RK> constant stimulation. So, use my input as you like! RK> (Generally speaking, looking at your own world only often RK> gives you narrow minded and views). RK> In my case, I can clearly tell that my fatigue gets worse RK> when my "silent inflammation" gets worse. So, I am looking RK> for the substances which can reduce my inflammation first of RK> all. Needless to say "positive thinking" and "exercise" !!! RK> (Former "by using brain", latter "by using my body") RK> Hang in there !!! RK> Big Hugs, Same to you, Rika. later Bobbie Sellers -- bobbie sellers - an exhausted, retired nurse in San Francisco bliss at california dot com Fnord. If you can't Fnord? see the Fnord! they can't eat you. |
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