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Lurking thanks
2004-01-24 17:40:50
Many thanks to those who responded to my question. I do appreciate the
advice. Why those drugs? I began to get bad headaches about 9 years ago and it was a neurologist who put me on the demerol and the stadol for pain. I found that by visiting 3 dr's I was able to get enough to have a generally pain free lifestyle. We moved a few years ago to a very small town in Northern Canada (my husband's work requires frequent moves) and it was here that I encountered my first trouble. I knew that I was using the medications for more than pain relief at this point, but as it did really improve my quality of life I wasn't too concerned. By improving my life, I do mean that I was able to better cope with life. They just made me happy. All the work with small children, and the housework and teachers etc...etc...just became less of a chore when I was in my medicated state. I learned some short cuts over the years on how to get medications but I am convinced that God is now playing with me. After using them for years without a need, I have now developed both arthiritis and lupus. My days are consumed with both pain and major depression. I was sent to a specialist who, at my request, put me on the morphine. I used the argument that the demerol wasn't very effective so I was given the extended dose tablets. That was a lovely time as my dr was elderly and would 'forget' that he had already given me a 1000 tablets so would prescribe more. Once, I went in and asked for a lower dose -said they were too strong - so he gave me another 1000 of the 15mg. Not very difficult actually. I did have test results that showed that I had a legitimate concern, and I am what one would consider a low risk for trouble. My father is a police chief- I have 4 small children - I'm a 35 year old university professor with a PhD, a published author, well respected in my academic community and, all modesty aside, I'm usually described as 'drop dead gorgeous'. This has made my quest for medications quite simple- I flirt a lot in the office; bring up the fact that I 'm stressed with teaching undergrads, keeping up with school functions and have a husband that is gone alot...(wink..wink..!)I only visit male dr's and I have never had a problem. Now, all that said, I am terrified to increase the meds I take. I know that when I have, the only thing that happens is my tolerance goes up and I am really no better off. I also know I should stop, but well...I don't want to. Quite simply. I truly do feel I am a better wife and mother because of them. I am pain free, depression free, stress free, and HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY. Nothing bothers me while I'm on the drugs. I know that my current dr would increase the meds if I asked him. But I do know where this will lead. I want to stay away from the tylenol 1 ( I did try that cold water method this evening -told my hubby that I had read this was a good 'face cream' - and while I'm not sure I have done it right, it doesn't seem to be making me quite as ill.) I don't mean to make this sound like a therapy session. Please forgive me if I am giving you the wrong idea. It has been nice, however, to know that so many articulate, intelligent people feel the same way I do. Why be miserable if there is something in life that can make life easier? Last question. I do have my liver checked from time to time...and to date, no problems. How would I know if I was damaging it without coming right out and asking my dr? Again, my thanks.
2004-01-25 03:13:34
On 24 Jan 2004 17:40:50 -0800, youwillneverguesswhoiam6@hotmail.com
(youwillneverguesswhoiam6@hotmail.com) wrote: >Many thanks to those who responded to my question. I do appreciate the >advice. > >Why those drugs? I began to get bad headaches about 9 years ago and >it was a neurologist who put me on the demerol and the stadol for >pain. I found that by visiting 3 dr's I was able to get enough to >have a generally pain free lifestyle. We moved a few years ago to a >very small town in Northern Canada (my husband's work requires >frequent moves) and it was here that I encountered my first trouble. >I knew that I was using the medications for more than pain relief at >this point, but as it did really improve my quality of life I wasn't >too concerned. By improving my life, I do mean that I was able to >better cope with life. They just made me happy. All the work with >small children, and the housework and teachers etc...etc...just >became less of a chore when I was in my medicated state. > >I learned some short cuts over the years on how to get medications but >I am convinced that God is now playing with me. After using them for >years without a need, I have now developed both arthiritis and lupus. >My days are consumed with both pain and major depression. I was sent >to a specialist who, at my request, put me on the morphine. I used >the argument that the demerol wasn't very effective so I was given the >extended dose tablets. That was a lovely time as my dr was elderly >and would 'forget' that he had already given me a 1000 tablets so >would prescribe more. Once, I went in and asked for a lower dose >-said they were too strong - so he gave me another 1000 of the 15mg. >Not very difficult actually. I did have test results that showed that >I had a legitimate concern, and I am what one would consider a low >risk for trouble. My father is a police chief- I have 4 small >children - I'm a 35 year old university professor with a PhD, a >published author, well respected in my academic community and, all >modesty aside, I'm usually described as 'drop dead gorgeous'. This >has made my quest for medications quite simple- I flirt a lot in the >office; bring up the fact that I 'm stressed with teaching undergrads, >keeping up with school functions and have a husband that is gone >alot...(wink..wink..!)I only visit male dr's and I have never had a >problem. > >Now, all that said, I am terrified to increase the meds I take. I >know that when I have, the only thing that happens is my tolerance >goes up and I am really no better off. I also know I should stop, but >well...I don't want to. Quite simply. I truly do feel I am a better >wife and mother because of them. I am pain free, depression free, >stress free, and HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY. Nothing bothers me while I'm on >the drugs. > >I know that my current dr would increase the meds if I asked him. But >I do know where this will lead. I want to stay away from the tylenol >1 ( I did try that cold water method this evening -told my hubby that >I had read this was a good 'face cream' - and while I'm not sure I >have done it right, it doesn't seem to be making me quite as ill.) > >I don't mean to make this sound like a therapy session. Please >forgive me if I am giving you the wrong idea. It has been nice, >however, to know that so many articulate, intelligent people feel the >same way I do. Why be miserable if there is something in life that >can make life easier? > >Last question. I do have my liver checked from time to time...and to >date, no problems. How would I know if I was damaging it without >coming right out and asking my dr? > >Again, my thanks. It sounds as though you have all the pain meds you need (1000 at a time??? - that is QUITE a doctor!). If I'm reading this correctly, you are concerned about escalating your tolerance and of course that is a legitimate concern shared by many of us ADHer's. Sadly, there isn't much you can do about it - it sucks, but it is the reality of taking pain medication on a daily basis. There are some folks that have tried to reduce tolerance with ultra low doses of Naltrexone with promising results. I don't know enough about it to try and explain it, but you can google search and find out more if you are truly interested. Short of that, I don't know any way to escape the need to take more and more to get the desired effect. I'm not really clear about what meds you are taking (morphine - MSContin, Stadol?) but with the quantities you are being prescribed you should be fine for quite awile, in spite of increased tolerance. Especially if the guy keeps"forgetting" - sheesh, doesn't he keep records? Eventually though you will likely get to the point that me and many others here are at: No amount of painkillers will give you that "HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY" feeling anymore. It took me about 2 years of daily oxycontin use to get there. If I didn't have chronic pain that makes taking the stuff every day a necessity, I may have been strong enough to just dose up once or twice a week. That may have helped keep my tolerance down a little longer, but it is a tough thing to do - pain or not. As for the APAP, if your doctor has you on medications with enough of it to damage your liver, I think it is fine to come right out and ask him about it. If you are going to be on painkillers long term, he should switch you over to something that has little or no APAP anyway (like MSContin or Oxycontin). It sounds like you are proceeding with enough caution given that you have to take the meds for pain. Of course if you can get by without strong opiates for pain, the smartest thing is not to take them at all, especially if you enjoy them as much as you seem to. My advice is to use as little as you can get by with (and still feel HAPPY" and painfree) and enjoy it while you can. Be prepared though to end up taking them not for fun, but to avoid withdrawal and getting really sick. Good luck, Cheryl
2004-01-25 00:23:44
>I'm usually described as 'drop dead > gorgeous'. Do you realize that wording it that way makes your entire post suspect? And it was an otherwise well written post. I just am at a loss to understand how somebody could write that way, about themselves.... with a straight face.... Not trying to offend you...it just kind of jumped off the page at me. Mike
2004-01-25 12:45:26
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:23:44 -1000 (HST), donegan@webtv.net (Michael
Donegan) wrote: >>I'm usually described as 'drop dead >> gorgeous'. > >Do you realize that wording it that way makes your entire post suspect? >And it was an otherwise well written post. I just am at a loss to >understand how somebody could write that way, about themselves.... with >a straight face.... > Not trying to offend you...it just kind of jumped off the page at me. >Mike > Maybe she was laughing when she wrote it?? I was tempted to respond to this in my post as well, but decided "Nah". I will say that I can't imagine flirting with my pain doctor. Now mind you, I'm not usually described as "drop dead gorgeous" (more like - "you don't look bad for a 40 year old chick") but he would think I was crazy. He might even cut me off my meds! Perhaps the OP could post a pic to May's ADH page so we could see what all the fuss is about. Cheryl
2004-01-26 02:08:50
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:23:44 -1000 (HST), donegan@webtv.net (Michael
Donegan) wrote: >>I'm usually described as 'drop dead >> gorgeous'. > >Do you realize that wording it that way makes your entire post suspect? >And it was an otherwise well written post. I just am at a loss to >understand how somebody could write that way, about themselves.... with >a straight face.... > Not trying to offend you...it just kind of jumped off the page at me. >Mike I have to say here MD, that as time goes by, your analyses of the words posted in this newsgroup, mirror my own opinions rather closely. This is a worrying development and I have to admit to being bewildered and confused.by this state of affairs. Are you certifiable? -+Anna+-
2004-01-25 09:41:52
donegan@webtv.net (Michael Donegan) wrote in message news:<13785-40139930-9@storefull-3115.bay.webtv.net>...
> >I'm usually described as 'drop dead > > gorgeous'. > > Do you realize that wording it that way makes your entire post suspect? > And it was an otherwise well written post. I just am at a loss to > understand how somebody could write that way, about themselves.... with > a straight face.... > Not trying to offend you...it just kind of jumped off the page at me. > Mike I see that I have set the women's movement back about a hundred years... My point did have a purpose - and not one that I would admit in a normal day to day conversation with someone. I was also using other's description of me -not my own. But why be modest? I have a hundred other messed up attributes, my appearance just happens to be a strong bonus and something that I have been able to manipulate to get what I want. Why is commenting on how others perceive my appearance seen as dishonest? Have we become so politically correct that it is seen as bad form to acknowledge an attribute? God blessed me to look like this, so why not celebrate it? Of course, all that said, I have also found that my appearance is of little help in HOW I FEEL ABOUT myself...hence my reason for my little problem. People often see an outward appearance -and feel that you must have life in the proverbial bag...So the sympathy that is offered is slim to nil. My apologies if I offended someone. I was just trying to be honest about my situation. I use my looks and I flirt outrageously with drs to get what I want. That is why it has always been so easy...and why I can get dr's to forget the thousands of other pills they have already given me. It's a gift and I use it. I'm sorry that that makes you think I am insincere. Cheers, Me
2004-01-25 17:52:18
youwillneverguesswhoiam6@hotmail.com wrote:
> Why is commenting on how others perceive my appearance seen as > dishonest? Have we become so politically correct that it is seen as > bad form to acknowledge an attribute? > Nope. Not by me anyway. P.S. Please post some nekkid pics. |
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